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Offline illiniproph

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Re: Scum post game thread!
« Reply #80 on: February 13, 2012, 12:02:25 PM »
It just goes back to what I've been saying for a long time..we do a poor job of recruiting the type of kids and athletes we need to run our specific system.  We did a poor job of recruiting a 'team'...many other teams do much better than us when it comes to this...like Bo Ryan, can't stand the guy...but he recruits the guys that are going to succeed in his system.  We've taken the best athletes we can get but we don't want to cater an offense towards the guys we end up with..that rigidity doesn't work very well when combined with that sort of recruiting strategy.
I think BW has some good qualities, but it appears he was in this a little over his head..the roadblocks he had to experience were too great for him to overcome..We can make all the excuses we want as to why this hasn't worked out...but BW had a job to do here at Illinois, and while it looked real promising the first two years, it's been pretty much downhill ever since.

Bo Ryan ALWAYS seems to have that one player step up and be an all american.  It is almost unbelievable how a guy can play
less than 5 minutes 1 year, then totally turn it around the next.  Look at Leure for example.  And their pg this year is simply
amazing.  They are better and more consistant then Meyers turn around this year.. and it happens every year with Wisconsin-
just dont get it.

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Re: Scum post game thread!
« Reply #81 on: February 13, 2012, 12:28:08 PM »
Bo Ryan ALWAYS seems to have that one player step up and be an all american.  It is almost unbelievable how a guy can play
less than 5 minutes 1 year, then totally turn it around the next.  Look at Leure for example.  And their pg this year is simply
amazing.  They are better and more consistant then Meyers turn around this year.. and it happens every year with Wisconsin-
just dont get it.

Don't forget Alando Tucker and Devin Harris.  May not have been heralded recruits but were great athletes that could get their shot whenever they wanted.  And a big reason why that offense works so well.  When you can wait till late in the shot clock and have Tucker, Harris, or Taylor go get a shot the offense works really well. 
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Re: Scum post game thread!
« Reply #82 on: February 13, 2012, 04:42:30 PM »
Webers system is good enough for kids who truly want to become 'professional players' -- 2004/05 proved that. 

Our kids seem to want to have it 'their way' ... and that's been going on way to long. It started with Pruitt, then went to DMac, now its BP ... all with pro potential, none willing to buy into the system ... all deserve(d) pinetime.

BP is a compulsive gambler ... not a tactician on the court.  Meyers has made HUGE strides, but is a 4 playing 5.  Both are young mentally by virtue of their mistakes, which they tend to compound emotionally after the fact.

Could we fast break more?  Maybe.  Could we run the bench deep?  In theory, yes.  *** But the real issue is we can't pass, our motion is motionless.  I find myself screaming at the TV ... we don't execute as a unit, no synergy exists.  We have ballers, not students of the game as demanded by Webers system and approach.

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Re: Scum post game thread!
« Reply #83 on: February 13, 2012, 07:41:56 PM »
Where does this ML is a 4 playing the 5 come from.  He is a 5 on this level and will be on the NBA level.


DMac snowed people into thinking he was NBA talent.  4years, 3 as the primary option and he went undrafted.  No hops and not enough quicks.