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[Firehawk]

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Question ,  its still a pipe dream to even think about IMO, if he gets dealt it will be to Western conference IMO.,and the CBA nobody knows what that's going to be, what the hard cap will be... but IF it was possible, under all that, would you gut the team to get Howard if you had the chance?

I mean what if it took trading  Taj, Noah, Deng and Asik or Boozer....or something crazy like that? where your would basically be left with Rose and Howard and having to fill spots with scrubs like the Heat...i think that would be a hard decision... as much as having 2 of the most dynamic players in the game at the PG and Center positions would be, would be rought filling the rest of the roster especially if their is a hard cap

it is intriguing though ..I think Rose and Howard by themselves trump the 3 of Bosh, Wade, and James. just because those are the 2 hardest positions to find in the league

[Firehawk]

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not realistic though because if Howard was here, most likely Taj.. boozer.. Noah would not be

Dwight Howard To Chicago Bulls Promo

[matfive2]

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Question ,  its still a pipe dream to even think about IMO, if he gets dealt it will be to Western conference IMO.,and the CBA nobody knows what that's going to be, what the hard cap will be... but IF it was possible, under all that, would you gut the team to get Howard if you had the chance?

I mean what if it took trading  Taj, Noah, Deng and Asik or Boozer....or something crazy like that? where your would basically be left with Rose and Howard and having to fill spots with scrubs like the Heat...i think that would be a hard decision... as much as having 2 of the most dynamic players in the game at the PG and Center positions would be, would be rought filling the rest of the roster especially if their is a hard cap

it is intriguing though ..I think Rose and Howard by themselves trump the 3 of Bosh, Wade, and James. just because those are the 2 hardest positions to find in the league

I would trade all 4 of those guys in a heartbeat for Howard if that would get the deal done. More realistically, I think Noah, Asik, Deng, Taj + 1st round pick from CHA should get the job done, Orlando ain't taking Boozer. Tell me you wouldn't make that trade. I actually think this trade would be good for Orlando as well. They'd still be a playoff team with those players and without Howard.

Our 2011-12 starting lineup would be Howard/Boozer/Brewer/Rose/who cares and the bench could have Butler/Korver/Big Sexy and who cares on it. Howard is such an imposing player and teams couldn't just double up DRose anymore, we'd have another stud and still have Boozer as a 3rd option. That team would be unstoppable, maybe 72+ wins unstoppable.

It'll never happen, GarPax don't have the guts to make a trade like that.......

[Tesch27]

Like you said, Howard will not be playing in the Eastern conference with a trade. Unless a team literally unloads the world to the Magic. If the Magic would be willing to trade him to an eastern conference team, the Bulls would need to trade Deng-Noah-Taj and picks. Thats hard for me to swallow.

To be honest I think if he does come to Chicago, it will be through free agency. The Bulls after this next season will have room but if they re-sign (ha "if"...) Rose to the max or in the hood of $14-15mil...they would not have much of anything to sign Howard. The challenge would be then to trade Noah, Boozer or Deng (1 of them) along with one of either Korver or Brewer to free up cap. Until he CBA gets figured out not sure what will unfold but you have to think if Howard isnt traded...the Bulls are still in the FA hunt. FWIW the Lakers if they dont land Howard in a trade and cant trade Gasol or Artest before the 12-13 season will have $67mil on the books...ouch. No chance they land him in FA.

[Firehawk]

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Question ,  its still a pipe dream to even think about IMO, if he gets dealt it will be to Western conference IMO.,and the CBA nobody knows what that's going to be, what the hard cap will be... but IF it was possible, under all that, would you gut the team to get Howard if you had the chance?

I mean what if it took trading  Taj, Noah, Deng and Asik or Boozer....or something crazy like that? where your would basically be left with Rose and Howard and having to fill spots with scrubs like the Heat...i think that would be a hard decision... as much as having 2 of the most dynamic players in the game at the PG and Center positions would be, would be rought filling the rest of the roster especially if their is a hard cap

it is intriguing though ..I think Rose and Howard by themselves trump the 3 of Bosh, Wade, and James. just because those are the 2 hardest positions to find in the league

I would trade all 4 of those guys in a heartbeat for Howard if that would get the deal done. More realistically, I think Noah, Asik, Deng, Taj + 1st round pick from CHA should get the job done, Orlando ain't taking Boozer. Tell me you wouldn't make that trade. I actually think this trade would be good for Orlando as well. They'd still be a playoff team with those players and without Howard.

Our 2011-12 starting lineup would be Howard/Boozer/Brewer/Rose/who cares and the bench could have Butler/Korver/Big Sexy and who cares on it. Howard is such an imposing player and teams couldn't just double up DRose anymore, we'd have another stud and still have Boozer as a 3rd option. That team would be unstoppable, maybe 72+ wins unstoppable.

It'll never happen, GarPax don't have the guts to make a trade like that.......

I'm not sure you're taking into account all the factors though, you seem to be approaching it from a  fantasy perspective....if there was no Hard cap and the Bulls could go after whoever they wanted....then sure, Id do it in a heartbeat, but lets think realistically here, chances are there going to be one, and do you want 70% or more of your possible pay role consisting of 2 players?? like I said its  tough decision...its why I think teams like NY and Miami are gonna be F'ed once the league comes back

besides, a team with 3 superstars just lost to a team with 1 and a solid core...I just dont think its the no brainier you are saying it is

[Tesch27]

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Question ,  its still a pipe dream to even think about IMO, if he gets dealt it will be to Western conference IMO.,and the CBA nobody knows what that's going to be, what the hard cap will be... but IF it was possible, under all that, would you gut the team to get Howard if you had the chance?

I mean what if it took trading  Taj, Noah, Deng and Asik or Boozer....or something crazy like that? where your would basically be left with Rose and Howard and having to fill spots with scrubs like the Heat...i think that would be a hard decision... as much as having 2 of the most dynamic players in the game at the PG and Center positions would be, would be rought filling the rest of the roster especially if their is a hard cap

it is intriguing though ..I think Rose and Howard by themselves trump the 3 of Bosh, Wade, and James. just because those are the 2 hardest positions to find in the league

I would trade all 4 of those guys in a heartbeat for Howard if that would get the deal done. More realistically, I think Noah, Asik, Deng, Taj + 1st round pick from CHA should get the job done, Orlando ain't taking Boozer. Tell me you wouldn't make that trade. I actually think this trade would be good for Orlando as well. They'd still be a playoff team with those players and without Howard.

Our 2011-12 starting lineup would be Howard/Boozer/Brewer/Rose/who cares and the bench could have Butler/Korver/Big Sexy and who cares on it. Howard is such an imposing player and teams couldn't just double up DRose anymore, we'd have another stud and still have Boozer as a 3rd option. That team would be unstoppable, maybe 72+ wins unstoppable.

It'll never happen, GarPax don't have the guts to make a trade like that.......

I dont know...as attractive as a pairing of Rose with Howard with any supporting cast is, not sure in todays NBA that it guarantees success. I think Miami proved that this year. Big Sexy is one half season away from retirement...so then we are left with no bigs off the bench and they are hard to find. Ask Miami how Juwan Howard has been working out.

If we could pull off a trade and somehow hold onto Asik...I'm in. But losing 2 high quality bench bigs is rough.

Basically I am in no hurry to blow up this team. I dont love the combo of Booze and Noah inside and think the SG spot is awful...we are not far from success. Not willing to go "Lebron" on it and look to start fresh because of impatience.

[Tesch27]

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Question ,  its still a pipe dream to even think about IMO, if he gets dealt it will be to Western conference IMO.,and the CBA nobody knows what that's going to be, what the hard cap will be... but IF it was possible, under all that, would you gut the team to get Howard if you had the chance?

I mean what if it took trading  Taj, Noah, Deng and Asik or Boozer....or something crazy like that? where your would basically be left with Rose and Howard and having to fill spots with scrubs like the Heat...i think that would be a hard decision... as much as having 2 of the most dynamic players in the game at the PG and Center positions would be, would be rought filling the rest of the roster especially if their is a hard cap

it is intriguing though ..I think Rose and Howard by themselves trump the 3 of Bosh, Wade, and James. just because those are the 2 hardest positions to find in the league

I would trade all 4 of those guys in a heartbeat for Howard if that would get the deal done. More realistically, I think Noah, Asik, Deng, Taj + 1st round pick from CHA should get the job done, Orlando ain't taking Boozer. Tell me you wouldn't make that trade. I actually think this trade would be good for Orlando as well. They'd still be a playoff team with those players and without Howard.

Our 2011-12 starting lineup would be Howard/Boozer/Brewer/Rose/who cares and the bench could have Butler/Korver/Big Sexy and who cares on it. Howard is such an imposing player and teams couldn't just double up DRose anymore, we'd have another stud and still have Boozer as a 3rd option. That team would be unstoppable, maybe 72+ wins unstoppable.

It'll never happen, GarPax don't have the guts to make a trade like that.......

I'm not sure you're taking into account all the factors though, you seem to be approaching it from a  fantasy perspective....if there was no Hard cap and the Bulls could go after whoever they wanted....then sure, Id do it in a heartbeat, but lets think realistically here, chances are there going to be one, and do you want 70% or more of your possible pay role consisting of 2 players?? like I said its  tough decision...its why I think teams like NY and Miami are gonna be F'ed once the league comes back

besides, a team with 3 superstars just lost to a team with 1 and a solid core...I just dont think its the no brainier you are saying it is

Its not and not with the amount of talent in todays NBA...maybe in the late 90s and earlier 00s when Michael Jeffrey wasnt around. But the NBA is looking more today like it did in the 90s...alot of talented role players who can score and defend.

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Question ,  its still a pipe dream to even think about IMO, if he gets dealt it will be to Western conference IMO.,and the CBA nobody knows what that's going to be, what the hard cap will be... but IF it was possible, under all that, would you gut the team to get Howard if you had the chance?

I mean what if it took trading  Taj, Noah, Deng and Asik or Boozer....or something crazy like that? where your would basically be left with Rose and Howard and having to fill spots with scrubs like the Heat...i think that would be a hard decision... as much as having 2 of the most dynamic players in the game at the PG and Center positions would be, would be rought filling the rest of the roster especially if their is a hard cap

it is intriguing though ..I think Rose and Howard by themselves trump the 3 of Bosh, Wade, and James. just because those are the 2 hardest positions to find in the league

I would trade all 4 of those guys in a heartbeat for Howard if that would get the deal done. More realistically, I think Noah, Asik, Deng, Taj + 1st round pick from CHA should get the job done, Orlando ain't taking Boozer. Tell me you wouldn't make that trade. I actually think this trade would be good for Orlando as well. They'd still be a playoff team with those players and without Howard.

Our 2011-12 starting lineup would be Howard/Boozer/Brewer/Rose/who cares and the bench could have Butler/Korver/Big Sexy and who cares on it. Howard is such an imposing player and teams couldn't just double up DRose anymore, we'd have another stud and still have Boozer as a 3rd option. That team would be unstoppable, maybe 72+ wins unstoppable.

It'll never happen, GarPax don't have the guts to make a trade like that.......

I dont know...as attractive as a pairing of Rose with Howard with any supporting cast is, not sure in todays NBA that it guarantees success. I think Miami proved that this year. Big Sexy is one half season away from retirement...so then we are left with no bigs off the bench and they are hard to find. Ask Miami how Juwan Howard has been working out.

If we could pull off a trade and somehow hold onto Asik...I'm in. But losing 2 high quality bench bigs is rough.

Basically I am in no hurry to blow up this team. I dont love the combo of Booze and Noah inside and think the SG spot is awful...we are not far from success. Not willing to go "Lebron" on it and look to start fresh because of impatience.

agreed....I also half agree with you Mat, dont get me wrong...I just am looking at it from some different angles as well, i'm factoring in a hard cap in all this.

I think its probably going to be easier to acquire a decent SG, then it would be to blow up the team to get Howard...and since we already have decent bigs thats probably the way to go.....would still love to see Howard in a Bulls uni    but ti would depend on how much room we had salary wise after and what we could put around them

[matfive2]

I'm not sure you're taking into account all the factors though, you seem to be approaching it from a  fantasy perspective....if there was no Hard cap and the Bulls could go after whoever they wanted....then sure, Id do it in a heartbeat, but lets think realistically here, chances are there going to be one, and do you want 70% or more of your possible pay role consisting of 2 players?? like I said its  tough decision...its why I think teams like NY and Miami are gonna be F'ed once the league comes back

besides, a team with 3 superstars just lost to a team with 1 and a solid core...I just dont think its the no brainier you are saying it is

I'll believe the hardcap when I see it. From what I'm reading that is something the players will not agree to. They are willing to make financial concessions, but not on the hardcap.

Dwight Howard is the best Center (by far) and DRose is one of the better PGs in the game (I'd say he was the best, but the dude needs to up his assist numbers before I can call him the best PG). By trading Noah/Deng/Taj/Asik, you are clearing $27M from the 2011-12 payroll (and even more going forward). Get rid of CJ (making $3.4M for some reason in 2011-12) and that's about $31M to play with. Sign DRose and Howard to max deals with some judicious backloading and you can still field a solid roster around Boozer/Rose/Howard.

You put Howard on a team with DRose/Boozer/Brewer/Korver/BigSexy/Butler/Scalabrine and some scrubs and you hands down have the best team in the NBA. There's just not a lot of holes at key positions. Luol would be missed, but Howard would more than make up for the loss of Deng.

Its as close to a no brainer as possible in my book. These are the types of moves that can define a franchise. GarPax need to get this done. If Howard goes to LA for some package centered around Bynum, I'm going to be extremely pissed off at GarPax for once again not getting the job done when the opportunity presented itself.

Prove me wrong for once GarPax, just once!!!

I don't ask for a lot, the Cubs suck, the Bears will probably suck, I couldn't care less about the WSox or BHawks (no offense hockey fans), I just want the Bulls FO to have the cajones to make the big move for once. While a decent 2G would be nice, I'm not convinced that it will make the Bulls better than the Heat (unless we can get Monta Ellis, who is exactly what we need, but will likely cost more than he's probably worth).

Since Reinsdorf loves to be all in for his WSox, it would be nice for him to be all in with the Bulls for a change.

[Tesch27]

Derrick Rose is the best PG in the game. Assists are just another stat...when another PG can take over the game like he can, then I will rescind my statement. The only PG close to him in terms of taking over a game is CP3 but even he cant present the 1on1 matchup problems like Rose.

Mat, you think Howard/Boozer/Korver/Brewer/Rose is hands down a better line up than Miami's with Miller and Haslem off the bench? I would agree its a nasty team but not sure it guarantees rings.